1 00:00:02,977 --> 00:00:04,764 So let's talk about the 2011 2 00:00:04,789 --> 00:00:06,560 White House Correspondents' dinner. 3 00:00:06,585 --> 00:00:08,127 Do you think maybe you trolled Donald Trump 4 00:00:08,152 --> 00:00:09,259 into running for president? 5 00:00:09,284 --> 00:00:11,085 Uh honestly, 6 00:00:11,110 --> 00:00:12,623 the most memorable part 7 00:00:12,648 --> 00:00:14,663 of that night for me was... 8 00:00:14,688 --> 00:00:17,631 was knowing that the president had just authorized 9 00:00:17,656 --> 00:00:20,026 a secret raid to take out bin Laden. 10 00:00:20,051 --> 00:00:22,125 And watching all these people 11 00:00:22,150 --> 00:00:23,843 who are gonna have to report on it 12 00:00:23,868 --> 00:00:25,227 at the break of dawn 13 00:00:25,388 --> 00:00:29,529 just get wasted. 14 00:00:29,554 --> 00:00:31,565 I actually remember that night very, very well. 15 00:00:31,590 --> 00:00:33,683 Um, do you have any plans on going back to D.C.? 16 00:00:33,708 --> 00:00:37,365 No, I'm happy doing the podcast and consulting. 17 00:00:37,390 --> 00:00:39,244 You know, I'm definitely hoping to find some time 18 00:00:39,269 --> 00:00:41,073 later this year to write a memoir. 19 00:00:41,121 --> 00:00:43,387 Kelsey... Lorraine... Peters! 20 00:00:43,412 --> 00:00:44,714 Lauren, you gotta knock. 21 00:00:44,739 --> 00:00:46,160 You got onto Yara. 22 00:00:46,185 --> 00:00:48,983 - Why do you have my phone? - You got onto Yara! 23 00:00:49,008 --> 00:00:51,105 Dude, it's the dating app you have to apply for. 24 00:00:51,130 --> 00:00:52,585 Okay, I... I did not apply. 25 00:00:52,610 --> 00:00:54,212 Oh, my God, know me better, please. 26 00:00:54,237 --> 00:00:55,593 Come on. I applied for you. 27 00:00:55,618 --> 00:00:57,271 Okay, look, we have Wall Street. 28 00:00:57,296 --> 00:00:59,453 - Wall Street. Ooh, DJ? - Oh, my God. 29 00:00:59,478 --> 00:01:01,515 This looks like every other terrible dating app. 30 00:01:02,916 --> 00:01:04,896 Yo, some of us need to shower. 31 00:01:04,921 --> 00:01:07,835 - Kelsey got onto Yara. - Wow. 32 00:01:07,886 --> 00:01:09,544 Wait, this is like Tinder for the Illuminati, right? 33 00:01:09,569 --> 00:01:11,179 Yes, and she's acting like she's too cool for it. 34 00:01:11,204 --> 00:01:13,127 I am not! I need ten more minutes to get ready. 35 00:01:13,152 --> 00:01:15,466 Wait, wait! Will you just swipe a little bit? 36 00:01:15,751 --> 00:01:17,632 - Ah. - Okay, no. 37 00:01:17,657 --> 00:01:20,536 - Look at those eyes. - Oh, hi there. 38 00:01:20,818 --> 00:01:23,489 Uh. Thi... this is Anna. 39 00:01:23,514 --> 00:01:25,495 Kelsey just got onto Yara, the dating app. 40 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,027 Oh, the celebrity one? 41 00:01:27,052 --> 00:01:28,891 - Yeah. - That's so cool. 42 00:01:28,916 --> 00:01:30,523 Okay, okay, I need to finish getting ready. 43 00:01:30,548 --> 00:01:31,902 This is going to be so much fun. 44 00:01:31,927 --> 00:01:34,259 Oh, it already is! It's so fun. 45 00:01:34,284 --> 00:01:36,591 Oh, can I pee, like, really quick? 46 00:01:49,695 --> 00:01:51,075 Big news. 47 00:01:51,100 --> 00:01:53,002 "People" magazine wants to do a feature 48 00:01:53,027 --> 00:01:54,367 on "Marriage Vacation." 49 00:01:54,392 --> 00:01:55,813 Oh, that's so great! 50 00:01:55,838 --> 00:01:57,945 About Charles and Pauline getting back together. 51 00:01:58,352 --> 00:02:00,085 - Wow. - They even want to pay 52 00:02:00,110 --> 00:02:02,622 for a vow renewal ceremony in Hawaii. 53 00:02:02,647 --> 00:02:06,739 Oh. My gosh, that's amazing. 54 00:02:06,764 --> 00:02:08,950 - Don't think you'll be going. - Hm. 55 00:02:08,975 --> 00:02:10,477 I just heard about "People" magazine. 56 00:02:10,502 --> 00:02:12,522 Oh. We are so excited. 57 00:02:12,547 --> 00:02:14,239 That's not happening. 58 00:02:14,264 --> 00:02:16,285 Pauline and I are 59 00:02:16,310 --> 00:02:18,104 getting a divorce. 60 00:02:18,129 --> 00:02:20,099 - What? - Oh, Charles. 61 00:02:20,124 --> 00:02:22,424 I am so sorry. 62 00:02:23,167 --> 00:02:25,584 Uh, what are we going to do about the book tour? 63 00:02:25,609 --> 00:02:26,914 It starts tomorrow. 64 00:02:26,939 --> 00:02:28,941 Everything goes forward as planned. 65 00:02:28,966 --> 00:02:30,589 I was never part of the publicity. 66 00:02:30,614 --> 00:02:32,716 Not officially, but the book 67 00:02:32,741 --> 00:02:34,406 has been gaining momentum because people thought 68 00:02:34,431 --> 00:02:36,711 it resulted in the author and her husband 69 00:02:36,736 --> 00:02:38,358 getting back together. 70 00:02:38,383 --> 00:02:41,084 I don't know what to say, Diana. 71 00:02:41,109 --> 00:02:44,372 I'm not going to live my life to fit the novel. 72 00:03:08,995 --> 00:03:11,546 So Obama's former speechwriter, Jake Devereux, 73 00:03:11,571 --> 00:03:13,273 is making the rounds with a memoir, 74 00:03:13,298 --> 00:03:15,715 and I think it would be great "get" for Millennial. 75 00:03:15,740 --> 00:03:17,506 Or Empirical. Now, I've been planning 76 00:03:17,531 --> 00:03:19,413 on going after Devereux for weeks. 77 00:03:19,438 --> 00:03:21,276 Who doesn't love a planner, but I actually 78 00:03:21,301 --> 00:03:23,210 have a meeting set with him tomorrow in D.C. 79 00:03:23,235 --> 00:03:25,978 So do I. Maybe you should think about cancelling yours. 80 00:03:26,032 --> 00:03:28,647 Work together. Jake Devereux's book will be big. 81 00:03:28,672 --> 00:03:29,897 So whoever gets him, 82 00:03:29,922 --> 00:03:31,540 it'll be a win for the company. 83 00:03:36,692 --> 00:03:39,027 And I mean, can you believe this timing? 84 00:03:39,052 --> 00:03:40,728 Just as the book about our marriage comes out, 85 00:03:40,753 --> 00:03:42,140 he wants a divorce. 86 00:03:42,166 --> 00:03:43,467 Are you okay? 87 00:03:43,519 --> 00:03:46,142 I don't know. I guess. 88 00:03:46,167 --> 00:03:48,178 I'm mostly just focused on how everyone else 89 00:03:48,203 --> 00:03:49,569 is going to react to the news. 90 00:03:49,594 --> 00:03:51,321 The girls, you two, 91 00:03:51,346 --> 00:03:53,194 everyone who's gonna come hear me read. 92 00:03:53,219 --> 00:03:55,642 - It's none of their business. - I made it their business. 93 00:03:55,667 --> 00:03:56,882 People are gonna want to know 94 00:03:56,907 --> 00:03:58,875 how's the real life Kate and Karl? 95 00:03:58,900 --> 00:04:01,351 Say they're doing great, never been better. 96 00:04:01,463 --> 00:04:03,165 So lie? 97 00:04:03,328 --> 00:04:05,270 Postpone the truth. 98 00:04:05,486 --> 00:04:06,748 At least until you make 99 00:04:06,773 --> 00:04:08,555 the "New York Times" Best Seller List. 100 00:04:08,730 --> 00:04:10,933 What do you think, Liza? 101 00:04:14,984 --> 00:04:16,845 I, uh... 102 00:04:17,602 --> 00:04:21,069 I think, once you've created a story, 103 00:04:21,399 --> 00:04:24,021 other people want to believe it as much as you do. 104 00:04:24,130 --> 00:04:27,758 So true. Honesty can be very self-indulgent. 105 00:04:27,783 --> 00:04:29,862 I don't know. I'm a terrible liar. 106 00:04:29,887 --> 00:04:31,817 Just talk about your relationship when it was good. 107 00:04:31,842 --> 00:04:34,485 It's really just a lie of verb tenses. 108 00:04:34,539 --> 00:04:36,218 We could practice. 109 00:04:36,755 --> 00:04:37,977 Okay. 110 00:04:38,002 --> 00:04:40,266 Uh, let's see. When it was good? 111 00:04:40,793 --> 00:04:43,155 Ah, this is gonna make me sad. 112 00:04:44,193 --> 00:04:45,754 Well... 113 00:04:46,443 --> 00:04:48,521 He used to write me these... 114 00:04:49,078 --> 00:04:52,105 He... writes me 115 00:04:52,130 --> 00:04:54,590 these little love poems on sticky notes 116 00:04:54,615 --> 00:04:56,336 and puts them in the book I'm reading. 117 00:04:56,361 --> 00:04:57,582 That's a good one. 118 00:04:57,607 --> 00:04:58,921 Yeah. 119 00:04:58,946 --> 00:05:00,728 And when we go to the country 120 00:05:00,753 --> 00:05:02,268 in the summer 121 00:05:02,613 --> 00:05:04,906 we always make love outside. 122 00:05:04,931 --> 00:05:06,581 Aw. 123 00:05:06,606 --> 00:05:08,858 And now we're never going to make love again. 124 00:05:08,883 --> 00:05:11,078 That's enough. Very, very good. 125 00:05:11,103 --> 00:05:12,925 You probably don't need to get that detailed. 126 00:05:12,950 --> 00:05:14,800 The bottle. 127 00:05:25,817 --> 00:05:27,381 Hi. 128 00:05:28,501 --> 00:05:29,963 How are you? 129 00:05:29,988 --> 00:05:32,571 Um. I'm, uh... I'm fine. 130 00:05:32,801 --> 00:05:36,296 I was, um, surprised to hear about you and Pauline. 131 00:05:36,503 --> 00:05:39,515 I guess maybe I thought it was working out. 132 00:05:40,522 --> 00:05:43,389 This must be really tough on you and the girls. 133 00:05:44,271 --> 00:05:46,273 Actually, it has been tough. 134 00:05:47,700 --> 00:05:49,592 Anytime you need me, I'm here. 135 00:05:50,192 --> 00:05:53,734 Uh, I mean, not here here. I know this isn't a good place. 136 00:05:54,086 --> 00:05:56,463 Uh, yeah. Yeah, it's not. 137 00:05:56,488 --> 00:06:00,953 How about we get together after Pauline's book tour? 138 00:06:01,126 --> 00:06:04,555 There is a lot that I want to talk to you about. 139 00:06:04,999 --> 00:06:06,590 Of course. 140 00:06:07,477 --> 00:06:08,831 I look forward to it. 141 00:06:21,004 --> 00:06:23,768 "And that night at the dinner table 142 00:06:23,793 --> 00:06:25,635 "in front of the kids, 143 00:06:25,783 --> 00:06:27,525 "he took my hand, 144 00:06:27,711 --> 00:06:30,927 "and for the second time in our relationship, 145 00:06:32,072 --> 00:06:33,622 "he proposed." 146 00:06:40,641 --> 00:06:42,150 Thank you, Pauline. 147 00:06:42,175 --> 00:06:43,716 What a special treat for us 148 00:06:43,741 --> 00:06:45,706 having you hear at Temple Israel. 149 00:06:45,731 --> 00:06:47,513 Well, thank you so much for having me. 150 00:06:47,538 --> 00:06:50,404 Ooh, I see a lot of familiar faces in the crowd 151 00:06:50,429 --> 00:06:53,339 who can't wait to get up and ask questions. 152 00:06:53,364 --> 00:06:55,746 Please, queue up at the microphone. 153 00:06:55,984 --> 00:06:57,036 Ooh. 154 00:06:57,061 --> 00:06:59,357 Goodness. 155 00:06:59,998 --> 00:07:02,788 - Hi, Pauline. Fern Hirsch. - Hi, Fern. 156 00:07:02,813 --> 00:07:04,755 Can you talk a little bit about the process? 157 00:07:04,780 --> 00:07:06,549 - My writing process? - No. 158 00:07:06,574 --> 00:07:09,041 The process of getting back together with your husband. 159 00:07:09,987 --> 00:07:11,818 Oh, um. 160 00:07:11,843 --> 00:07:14,138 - Smile. - I, um... 161 00:07:14,163 --> 00:07:15,993 Um... 162 00:07:18,917 --> 00:07:21,500 Um, you know, 163 00:07:21,525 --> 00:07:23,627 working together brought us closer. 164 00:07:23,652 --> 00:07:26,478 I think we were able to really 165 00:07:26,795 --> 00:07:29,217 rediscover ourselves as partners. 166 00:07:29,242 --> 00:07:31,875 You didn't seem like strangers after all of that time apart? 167 00:07:31,900 --> 00:07:34,322 - I know I would. - Suddenly it's the Fern show. 168 00:07:34,347 --> 00:07:38,171 You know, sometimes sex is better with a stranger. 169 00:07:44,954 --> 00:07:46,458 I think she'll be better one-on-one. 170 00:07:46,483 --> 00:07:47,678 She has to be. 171 00:07:48,239 --> 00:07:50,048 Pauline Turner Brooks, 172 00:07:50,073 --> 00:07:51,948 thank you for being on Bookworm. 173 00:07:51,973 --> 00:07:53,781 Thank you, Michael, and I'm so sorry 174 00:07:53,806 --> 00:07:56,363 - I couldn't join you in LA. - As am I. 175 00:07:56,388 --> 00:07:59,562 Well let's jump right in. What a story. 176 00:07:59,587 --> 00:08:01,900 It's like fiction meets memoir. 177 00:08:01,925 --> 00:08:05,068 Yes. Yes, but mostly fiction. 178 00:08:05,093 --> 00:08:08,157 Well, the way you talk about your husband 179 00:08:08,182 --> 00:08:10,609 and your life together, 180 00:08:10,634 --> 00:08:12,841 they say that God is in the details. 181 00:08:12,866 --> 00:08:15,760 Or the devil, depending on who you ask. 182 00:08:15,785 --> 00:08:20,709 Well may I ask, how is your real-life relationship? 183 00:08:20,734 --> 00:08:22,698 - You just did. - We knew he would. 184 00:08:22,828 --> 00:08:25,643 Oh, it's... 185 00:08:26,121 --> 00:08:27,715 Um... 186 00:08:27,740 --> 00:08:29,037 It's, uh... 187 00:08:29,062 --> 00:08:31,631 Land the plane, land the plane. 188 00:08:31,656 --> 00:08:33,946 It's... good. 189 00:08:34,361 --> 00:08:35,830 It's really good. 190 00:08:35,855 --> 00:08:37,974 Okay, I think she's got this. 191 00:08:37,999 --> 00:08:39,300 You wrote in your book 192 00:08:39,325 --> 00:08:41,639 that your sex life had become 193 00:08:41,664 --> 00:08:43,628 "routine but serviceable, 194 00:08:43,653 --> 00:08:48,767 "like the many Italian bistros on the Upper East Side." 195 00:08:48,975 --> 00:08:52,236 What kind of restaurant would you say your sex life 196 00:08:52,261 --> 00:08:55,148 is like now since the "vacation"? 197 00:08:55,558 --> 00:08:57,100 Well... 198 00:08:57,125 --> 00:08:58,838 It's hot. 199 00:08:59,214 --> 00:09:00,656 So... 200 00:09:01,475 --> 00:09:03,464 Thai, I guess? 201 00:09:03,489 --> 00:09:06,138 Or, um, Korean barbecue? 202 00:09:06,163 --> 00:09:08,642 We have a hot 203 00:09:08,667 --> 00:09:12,651 Korean barbecue sex and it's just so... 204 00:09:13,111 --> 00:09:14,848 So... 205 00:09:15,421 --> 00:09:18,896 Spicy. 206 00:09:24,837 --> 00:09:26,065 So there's so many people. 207 00:09:26,090 --> 00:09:28,822 Brad Pitt, George Clooney, Leonardo DiCaprio. 208 00:09:28,847 --> 00:09:32,743 And these guys, they are really good at basketball. 209 00:09:32,768 --> 00:09:35,432 But none of them have the guts to guard the president. 210 00:09:36,231 --> 00:09:37,495 So I have to. 211 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,315 - And he's good, right? - And I'm... 212 00:09:39,340 --> 00:09:41,420 You know, terrible. 213 00:09:41,445 --> 00:09:44,068 They called me "All-Day" because that's how long 214 00:09:44,093 --> 00:09:45,516 the president could score on me. 215 00:09:47,965 --> 00:09:49,472 Aw, that still had to be fun, though. 216 00:09:49,497 --> 00:09:51,837 Imagine all your heroes laughing at you. 217 00:09:51,862 --> 00:09:54,474 Come on, it didn't bruise your reputation too bad. 218 00:09:54,499 --> 00:09:56,723 I've seen the pictures of you hanging out with movie stars. 219 00:09:56,748 --> 00:09:58,348 Yeah, you even dated a couple. 220 00:09:58,373 --> 00:10:00,496 Definitely not putting that in the book. 221 00:10:00,521 --> 00:10:03,330 Well, even if you don't, though I think you should, 222 00:10:03,355 --> 00:10:04,927 your book is gonna be a best seller. 223 00:10:04,952 --> 00:10:06,337 - You think? - Yes. 224 00:10:06,362 --> 00:10:08,214 You just have to publish with the right place. 225 00:10:08,239 --> 00:10:09,537 And, of course, that's Empirical. 226 00:10:09,562 --> 00:10:11,180 Or Millennial. 227 00:10:11,205 --> 00:10:13,291 We have a great track record. 228 00:10:13,404 --> 00:10:16,848 Our goal is to publish authors with original voices. 229 00:10:16,873 --> 00:10:18,289 We also just signed a first-look deal 230 00:10:18,314 --> 00:10:20,809 with Reese Witherspoon's production company, 231 00:10:20,834 --> 00:10:23,315 which puts us in a very unique position. 232 00:10:23,340 --> 00:10:25,437 And one of the benefits of going with Empirical, 233 00:10:25,462 --> 00:10:27,264 there is no big, splashy, 234 00:10:27,289 --> 00:10:29,523 female-focused production company attached. 235 00:10:29,548 --> 00:10:31,771 So you can shop your book around anywhere you want. 236 00:10:31,796 --> 00:10:33,939 And you can keep all the money for yourself. 237 00:10:33,984 --> 00:10:36,908 Either way you go, you'll make a great choice. 238 00:10:41,267 --> 00:10:43,754 - You killed that. - Thank you. 239 00:10:43,779 --> 00:10:45,774 You didn't do so bad yourself. 240 00:10:45,799 --> 00:10:48,695 Mm, but you know he's gonna go with me, right? 241 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,943 You know what? I love your confidence. 242 00:10:52,271 --> 00:10:54,714 Sometimes it's even sexy. 243 00:10:56,273 --> 00:10:57,731 Sometimes. 244 00:11:03,657 --> 00:11:06,759 Can I do half regular and half sweet potato? 245 00:11:07,252 --> 00:11:09,313 Great. Thank you. 246 00:11:35,150 --> 00:11:38,529 _ 247 00:11:41,102 --> 00:11:46,625 _ 248 00:11:46,666 --> 00:11:49,374 _ 249 00:11:49,399 --> 00:11:51,958 _ 250 00:11:51,983 --> 00:11:57,337 _ 251 00:12:04,743 --> 00:12:06,877 - See you around? - Yeah, later. 252 00:12:06,902 --> 00:12:09,245 - Thanks, again. - Oh, you're welcome. 253 00:12:09,270 --> 00:12:11,319 - Bye. - Bye. 254 00:12:12,372 --> 00:12:15,003 - You guys met? - Yeah, Josh, y'girl was loose 255 00:12:15,028 --> 00:12:16,987 in the house and asked to borrow some eyeliner. 256 00:12:17,012 --> 00:12:18,593 Let me tell you something about the eyes. 257 00:12:18,618 --> 00:12:19,470 They are the window to the soul. 258 00:12:19,495 --> 00:12:21,779 They are also the doorway to disease and infection. 259 00:12:21,804 --> 00:12:23,467 You didn't have to let her use it. 260 00:12:23,492 --> 00:12:24,794 I shouldn't have been asked, dude. 261 00:12:24,819 --> 00:12:26,330 We're all living in this tiny apartment. 262 00:12:26,355 --> 00:12:28,155 Can we please just set some ground rules 263 00:12:28,180 --> 00:12:30,302 - about bringing people home? - Okay, okay, fine. 264 00:12:30,326 --> 00:12:32,465 Yes. Can we do it over food, though? 265 00:12:32,491 --> 00:12:33,993 - I'm starving. - Thought you'd never ask. 266 00:12:34,018 --> 00:12:36,325 All right. Let's go. 267 00:12:37,882 --> 00:12:39,305 All right, you have to walk them 268 00:12:39,329 --> 00:12:41,108 to and from the front door, okay? 269 00:12:41,133 --> 00:12:44,143 No roamers, no moaners, no giving out the Wi-Fi code. 270 00:12:44,168 --> 00:12:45,209 Oh, and they can have coffee, 271 00:12:45,234 --> 00:12:46,928 but they may not have the cold brew. 272 00:12:46,953 --> 00:12:50,670 Okay, calm down. I just got out of a terrible break up. 273 00:12:50,702 --> 00:12:51,801 - Mm-hmm. - I'm gonna be having 274 00:12:51,826 --> 00:12:54,250 a lot of sex. That's just what you do. 275 00:12:54,462 --> 00:12:56,477 Some people journal furiously about how 276 00:12:56,502 --> 00:12:57,934 they wish they're relationship had ended, 277 00:12:57,959 --> 00:12:59,710 and then they find a surrogate relationship 278 00:12:59,735 --> 00:13:01,871 where they try to re-create the break-up on their terms. 279 00:13:01,896 --> 00:13:03,306 I'm just saying everybody's different. 280 00:13:03,331 --> 00:13:06,927 Okay, I ju... I need to break this pattern, all right? 281 00:13:06,952 --> 00:13:09,177 I want to be the guy that's into random hook-ups, 282 00:13:09,202 --> 00:13:11,756 not the guy who just keeps falling in love with everyone. 283 00:13:11,781 --> 00:13:14,999 Josh, that is like me saying I want to be athletic. 284 00:13:15,024 --> 00:13:17,583 Okay? I'm serious. You're a born romantic, dude. 285 00:13:17,608 --> 00:13:18,741 There's nothing you can do to change that. 286 00:13:18,766 --> 00:13:20,870 I need to change it. 287 00:13:20,895 --> 00:13:22,186 I just keep getting hurt. 288 00:13:22,211 --> 00:13:24,540 - Love just doesn't work for me. - No, but it will. 289 00:13:24,565 --> 00:13:27,768 Okay, listen, you are gonna meet that perfect person, 290 00:13:27,793 --> 00:13:29,356 and it is all gonna click. 291 00:13:29,381 --> 00:13:31,024 What if I already did? 292 00:13:31,344 --> 00:13:33,848 What if it's Liza? 293 00:13:33,873 --> 00:13:37,111 Listen, if you and Liza are meant to be together, 294 00:13:37,136 --> 00:13:39,140 nothing can keep you apart. 295 00:13:40,302 --> 00:13:42,140 And I'm the romantic one? 296 00:13:42,165 --> 00:13:43,704 Yeah. 297 00:13:44,152 --> 00:13:47,020 Out of all the people I could have met on Yara... 298 00:13:47,045 --> 00:13:49,215 I know. I was surprised to see your profile. 299 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,124 And to learn you're interested in men and women. 300 00:13:54,732 --> 00:13:56,802 My friend Lauren applied for me. 301 00:13:56,827 --> 00:13:58,653 - Mm. - Clearly she's more interested 302 00:13:58,678 --> 00:14:00,017 in meeting people for herself. 303 00:14:00,042 --> 00:14:02,020 Uh-huh, sure. 304 00:14:06,929 --> 00:14:10,856 _ 305 00:14:10,881 --> 00:14:14,883 _ 306 00:14:18,870 --> 00:14:21,842 - I'll be right back. - No rush. 307 00:14:22,636 --> 00:14:24,958 _ 308 00:14:24,983 --> 00:14:28,702 _ 309 00:14:39,737 --> 00:14:41,756 Ah. 310 00:14:43,158 --> 00:14:46,016 - Good morning. - Good morning. 311 00:14:49,828 --> 00:14:51,202 Um... 312 00:14:51,355 --> 00:14:52,977 There are bagels in the lobby. 313 00:14:53,002 --> 00:14:55,893 Yeah, I'm good. I'm actually meeting somebody. 314 00:14:56,472 --> 00:14:58,156 Me too. 315 00:14:58,346 --> 00:14:59,567 Hey, guys. 316 00:14:59,592 --> 00:15:01,098 - Hey. - Hi, Jake. 317 00:15:01,123 --> 00:15:02,585 Sorry, I can't stay for breakfast. 318 00:15:02,610 --> 00:15:04,795 I'm doing HuffPo Live in an hour. 319 00:15:04,820 --> 00:15:07,915 Um, so, look, I was really impressed 320 00:15:07,940 --> 00:15:10,318 with what you guys had to say and I know the importance 321 00:15:10,343 --> 00:15:12,245 of surrounding yourself with smart people, 322 00:15:12,270 --> 00:15:15,950 so I decided that I would like to work with you. 323 00:15:15,975 --> 00:15:18,417 - Who? - Both of you. 324 00:15:20,293 --> 00:15:22,155 Can we do that? 325 00:15:23,967 --> 00:15:27,266 - Why not? - There are a few reasons. 326 00:15:27,291 --> 00:15:30,956 - But we can figure that out. - Okay, fantastic. 327 00:15:31,299 --> 00:15:33,151 I feel really good about this. 328 00:15:33,176 --> 00:15:34,362 - Good. - I'm glad. 329 00:15:34,387 --> 00:15:37,715 Great, so my lawyer will be in touch. 330 00:15:37,740 --> 00:15:40,896 And I'm super excited, so I'll see ya. 331 00:15:42,443 --> 00:15:43,905 Hey, Jake. 332 00:15:44,054 --> 00:15:45,315 Are you sure? 333 00:15:45,340 --> 00:15:48,046 You know, sometimes three's a crowd. 334 00:15:48,078 --> 00:15:49,887 I mean one thing no other publishing house 335 00:15:49,912 --> 00:15:51,912 is offering is two amazing editors. 336 00:15:51,937 --> 00:15:53,519 I'm a first-time author. 337 00:15:53,544 --> 00:15:55,594 I need all the help I can get. 338 00:15:56,221 --> 00:15:58,550 - Okay. - Okay? 339 00:15:58,797 --> 00:16:01,878 Oh, um, I saw you on Yara. 340 00:16:01,903 --> 00:16:05,157 Yeah, I saw you too. 341 00:16:16,882 --> 00:16:18,663 How is the tour going? 342 00:16:19,773 --> 00:16:21,579 Door open or door closed? 343 00:16:25,430 --> 00:16:26,686 Pauline is unhinged. 344 00:16:26,711 --> 00:16:27,866 She cries every time 345 00:16:27,891 --> 00:16:29,657 she's asked about your relationship. 346 00:16:30,338 --> 00:16:31,575 Ah. 347 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,149 I knew that talking about the break up would be hard. 348 00:16:35,174 --> 00:16:37,296 But this... this, uh... 349 00:16:37,704 --> 00:16:39,456 That is truly unexpected. 350 00:16:39,481 --> 00:16:43,128 Uh, she's actually telling people that, um, 351 00:16:43,376 --> 00:16:44,998 that you're still together. 352 00:16:45,023 --> 00:16:46,809 I thought it might be a bad idea, but 353 00:16:46,834 --> 00:16:50,425 it's so hard to push back with such raw subject matter. 354 00:16:50,450 --> 00:16:54,415 It's not your fault. This is uncharted territory. 355 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:55,967 Ugh, I had such high hopes. 356 00:16:55,992 --> 00:16:57,704 Well, this book 357 00:16:58,376 --> 00:17:01,302 may not be what the company hoped it would be. 358 00:17:01,327 --> 00:17:04,675 It's definitely not what Pauline hoped it would be. 359 00:17:05,140 --> 00:17:07,154 Yeah. 360 00:17:07,179 --> 00:17:10,756 I'm sorry, Diana, for making your job harder. 361 00:17:12,544 --> 00:17:16,926 Charles, maybe you should go tonight in my place. 362 00:17:16,951 --> 00:17:20,016 Wouldn't that just support this fallacy? 363 00:17:20,041 --> 00:17:21,837 You're not supporting her lie. 364 00:17:21,862 --> 00:17:23,892 You're supporting her. 365 00:17:35,534 --> 00:17:37,666 - Liza, sorry I'm late. - Hi, it's okay. 366 00:17:37,691 --> 00:17:40,293 How are you feeling? Ah, nervous. 367 00:17:40,551 --> 00:17:42,285 All right, I'm gonna talk to moderator 368 00:17:42,310 --> 00:17:43,674 before the QandA starts. 369 00:17:43,699 --> 00:17:44,676 Hopefully I can get him to stick 370 00:17:44,701 --> 00:17:45,881 to questions about the novel. 371 00:17:45,906 --> 00:17:47,727 You know you'd think 372 00:17:47,752 --> 00:17:49,614 the lying would get easier, 373 00:17:49,639 --> 00:17:52,117 but the more it accumulates, the harder it gets. 374 00:17:52,974 --> 00:17:55,247 Yeah. Believe what you're saying is true. 375 00:17:55,272 --> 00:17:57,246 Keep your answers short, and remember, these people 376 00:17:57,271 --> 00:17:59,300 are here because you gave them hope. 377 00:17:59,325 --> 00:18:01,227 Yep, false hope. 378 00:18:01,252 --> 00:18:03,315 Hope that they could have the lives they wanted. 379 00:18:03,340 --> 00:18:06,182 It doesn't necessarily mean saving their marriage. 380 00:18:06,207 --> 00:18:07,996 That can mean anything. 381 00:18:08,021 --> 00:18:11,250 Okay. Thanks, Liza. 382 00:18:15,929 --> 00:18:17,597 "It was a Tuesday. 383 00:18:17,622 --> 00:18:21,223 "Corina had piano lessons and Jamie had ballet. 384 00:18:21,375 --> 00:18:25,007 "I was back in the routine, and it felt like I never left. 385 00:18:25,032 --> 00:18:26,926 - "The one difference was..." - Hey. 386 00:18:26,951 --> 00:18:29,135 No statements and no two-part questions. 387 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:30,832 And try not to pick someone who came here 388 00:18:30,862 --> 00:18:32,136 for advice on their love life. 389 00:18:32,161 --> 00:18:33,325 How am I supposed to know that? 390 00:18:33,350 --> 00:18:34,411 Oh, you can tell. 391 00:18:34,436 --> 00:18:36,525 "And that night at the dinner table 392 00:18:36,550 --> 00:18:37,892 "in front of the kids, 393 00:18:37,977 --> 00:18:39,673 "he took my hand, 394 00:18:39,698 --> 00:18:42,574 "and for the second time in our relationship, 395 00:18:43,039 --> 00:18:44,775 "he proposed." 396 00:18:50,475 --> 00:18:52,096 Thank you. 397 00:18:52,121 --> 00:18:54,121 Thank you, Pauline. 398 00:18:54,158 --> 00:18:56,537 Now we'll take some questions from the audience. 399 00:18:56,562 --> 00:18:58,102 Oh, no, too eager. Keep going. 400 00:18:58,127 --> 00:19:00,450 Yes, over here on the right. 401 00:19:00,475 --> 00:19:03,225 Mm-mm. 402 00:19:03,250 --> 00:19:05,228 Hi, Pauline. 403 00:19:05,253 --> 00:19:07,155 - Beth. - Hi, Beth. 404 00:19:07,180 --> 00:19:10,044 - Love your book. - Aw, thank you. 405 00:19:10,069 --> 00:19:11,759 I have a personal question. 406 00:19:11,784 --> 00:19:13,101 Oh, of course you do. 407 00:19:13,126 --> 00:19:14,824 How's it working between you 408 00:19:14,849 --> 00:19:17,355 and the real-life Karl? 409 00:19:18,937 --> 00:19:21,159 Um, it's... 410 00:19:21,184 --> 00:19:23,234 It's... 411 00:19:23,259 --> 00:19:25,039 Well, the truth is... 412 00:19:32,238 --> 00:19:34,010 The truth is 413 00:19:34,731 --> 00:19:37,326 my marriage was over before I left. 414 00:19:38,781 --> 00:19:41,011 And no matter what I did, 415 00:19:41,036 --> 00:19:42,684 no matter what he did, 416 00:19:42,709 --> 00:19:44,711 it wasn't gonna get fixed. 417 00:19:47,450 --> 00:19:49,848 This story is a fantasy. 418 00:19:49,902 --> 00:19:52,466 It's how I imagined it for the couple in the book 419 00:19:52,491 --> 00:19:54,613 because I like happy endings. 420 00:19:55,144 --> 00:19:57,215 But for me, 421 00:19:57,596 --> 00:20:00,471 my story isn't over. 422 00:20:01,100 --> 00:20:03,896 And my happy ending is still out there. 423 00:20:09,337 --> 00:20:11,205 Thank you. 424 00:20:15,779 --> 00:20:18,073 Okay, next question. 425 00:20:19,614 --> 00:20:21,931 Thank you too. 426 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,989 - Charles, hi. - Hi. 427 00:20:25,014 --> 00:20:26,435 I didn't know you were going to be here tonight. 428 00:20:26,460 --> 00:20:29,096 I heard that Pauline was having a hard time. 429 00:20:29,207 --> 00:20:31,920 And I assume that lying was your idea? 430 00:20:32,795 --> 00:20:34,522 Charles. 431 00:20:35,707 --> 00:20:37,675 - Hi. - Hi. 432 00:20:37,700 --> 00:20:40,433 - I'm glad you came. - Me too. 433 00:20:40,458 --> 00:20:42,658 And I know that was hard, but... 434 00:20:43,306 --> 00:20:46,523 being honest was the right thing to do. 435 00:20:48,916 --> 00:20:51,335 Well, I mean, I wasn't truly honest. 436 00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:53,743 If I had been, I would have said 437 00:20:54,152 --> 00:20:57,295 that it was your career and your ambition 438 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,424 that ruined our marriage, not mine. 439 00:20:59,449 --> 00:21:02,529 And that when we got married, I thought we'd be a team. 440 00:21:02,836 --> 00:21:04,899 Right away, it was all about you. 441 00:21:04,924 --> 00:21:07,346 I was just there to be your rock. 442 00:21:07,749 --> 00:21:10,156 And you never noticed how unhappy I was 443 00:21:10,181 --> 00:21:12,666 because you didn't want to. 444 00:21:14,770 --> 00:21:17,641 I'm sorry, Pauline. 445 00:21:17,666 --> 00:21:19,265 I really am. 446 00:21:19,290 --> 00:21:20,788 And you're right. 447 00:21:20,813 --> 00:21:23,563 Sometimes I am blind 448 00:21:24,469 --> 00:21:26,792 to what's right in front of me. 449 00:21:32,623 --> 00:21:34,444 Charles. 450 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,202 Huh! 451 00:21:48,574 --> 00:21:50,218 Charles. 452 00:21:50,243 --> 00:21:52,705 Charles. Wait. 453 00:21:53,268 --> 00:21:54,690 Who are you? 454 00:21:55,097 --> 00:21:58,400 - What? - Who are you? 455 00:22:00,873 --> 00:22:03,155 I think if you're asking, you probably know. 456 00:22:03,390 --> 00:22:04,956 I thought I did. 457 00:22:05,373 --> 00:22:08,534 I'm just a woman who lied about her age to get a job. 458 00:22:09,745 --> 00:22:12,817 - How long have you... - It doesn't matter. 459 00:22:12,842 --> 00:22:15,089 - What else did you lie about? - Let me explain. 460 00:22:15,114 --> 00:22:17,239 You betrayed me. 461 00:22:18,048 --> 00:22:23,139 You looked me in the eyes for months and months, 462 00:22:23,164 --> 00:22:26,765 and you pretended to be somebody else entirely. 463 00:22:27,067 --> 00:22:30,341 You are not the kind of person that I want to have in my life. 464 00:22:30,366 --> 00:22:34,942 Unfortunately this company will not survive another scandal. 465 00:22:34,967 --> 00:22:36,253 So from now on 466 00:22:36,278 --> 00:22:40,054 we have a professional reporting relationship. 467 00:22:40,392 --> 00:22:42,546 Maybe it would be better if I just left. 468 00:22:42,571 --> 00:22:46,521 - Synced and corrected by martythecrazy - - www.addic7ed.com - 469 00:22:46,546 --> 00:22:48,652 I thought you did all this to get a job.